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Delta Air Lines finally announced the much-anticipated changes to its horribly-received SkyMiles 2025 program.
Some changes were pretty much as we expected. A few others were way out of left field. And one of the big ones we anticipated didn’t come to fruition.
So, let’s look at the changes and see what we think!
Reduced MQD Requirements
Delta reduced the MQD thresholds for earning status. (René was spot-on for nearly all his MQD predictions!)
- Silver: $5,000 (down from $6,000 MQD)
- Gold: $10,000 (down from $12,000 MQD)
- Platinum: $15,000 (down from $18,000 MQD)
- Diamond: $28,000 (down from $35,000 MQD)
Those certainly are better than the previously announced levels. But $28,000 for Diamond is still almost double what it took to earn that status for this year. It’s $20,000 for 2024. Honestly, $28,000 is still high.)
“Car rentals and hotel/vacation rentals booked through Delta Car Rentals and Delta Stays will not earn MQDs toward Medallion Status,” Delta said.
I don’t think many of us will lose sleep on that one.
But there’s a huge twist we’re going to discuss later.
Improvements to the Sky Club Visit Rations
I’m still not pleased that unlimited Sky Club visits are being discontinued after January 2025.
Unless the primary cardholder drops $75,000 on their eligible card in one year, of course.
The fact Delta SkyMiles® Reserve and Delta SkyMiles® Reserve Business Amex cards don’t offer uncapped lounge access is ludicrous. Both American Airlines’ and United Airlines’ top-tier cards don’t limit their members’ lounge visits.
Delta’s updated policy (taking effect in February 2025) is:
- Delta SkyMiles® Reserve and Delta SkyMiles® Reserve Business American Express Card members can visit Sky Clubs for 15 days yearly.
- All visits made in a 24-hour period will count as one day.
- That’s up from the very limited ten visits.
- Amex Platinum and Amex Business Platinum Card members may visit Sky Clubs for up to 10 days per year.
- Card members can also purchase Sky Club access for $50 per day after using all allotted days.
- Medallion members may buy an annual individual Delta Sky Club membership for $695.
That’s certainly an improvement over limiting access to “visits.” For example, I visited the Los Angeles T3 Sky Club and the big Seattle Sky Club one day last week. Under the previously announced rules, those would’ve counted as two of my allotted ten visits for the year. The update now means they’d count as just one day.
Knock yourself out?
Is Delta Making It Easier to Earn Elite Status Than the Current Program?!
We now enter the “Cool, But I Thought the Idea Was to Trim Elite Rankings?” portion of our show.
Now might be a good time to call your cardiologist if you’re a part of the “Thin the herd!” group: Delta is making it easier to earn status without stepping on a plane.
Get $10,000 MQD for Just $2,000?
Something tells me a lot of people canceled their Delta Amex cards. Like, far more than either Delta or Amex will admit.
Starting in February 2024, you can earn a $2,500 “MQD Boost” for the current Medallion Qualification Year (MQY or MQ Why? 🙂 ) for holding just one of these co-branded Delta Amex cards:
- Delta SkyMiles® Reserve
- Delta SkyMiles® Reserve Business
- Delta SkyMiles® Platinum
- Delta SkyMiles® Platinum Business
The $2,500 boost is per card. Delta says so.
So, holding all four cards will give you $10,000 MQD.
The Reserves each carry a $650 annual fee. The Platinums are $350. That means you reach Gold Medallion status for only $1,600 in annual fees.
So, I need to earn only $5,000 more MQD to be Platinum? Or $18,000 MQD for Diamond? In other words, you can hit Diamond for $20,000, give or take.
Count. Me. In. (Hello, point.me and MQD runs!)
That said, I wholeheartedly expect the Delta Amex Cards’ annual fees to climb before February.
Improved MQM to MQD Ratio, Use Rollover MQM to Extend Your 2024 Status
First, Delta will throw Medallions a bone next year if they elect to convert their rollover MQM to MQD.
The airline previously announced the radio would be 20 MQM to $1 MQD.
Gross.
That figure is now 10 MQM : $1 MQD
I appreciate that concession.
Medallion members with over 100,000 rollover MQM next year can select an interesting option: they may extend their 2024 Medallion status by a year. They may do so at a rate of one year per each 100,000 MQM.
So, if you’re Diamond for 2024 and start the year with 300,000 MQM, you can elect to keep your Diamond status for an additional three years.
Huge Lifetime (ahem Yearly) Medallion Changes to the Million Miler Program
Imagine having lifetime Delta 360o status.
Well, that becomes a possibility next year.
Yearly Medallion status is awarded to those hearty flyers (and, for now, spenders) who accrue at least one million MQM. That changes to actual miles flown next year.
- 6+ Million Milers earn earns Delta 360o (previously Diamond Medallion)
- 5 Million Milers earn Delta 360o (previously Platinum Medallion)
- 4 Million Milers earn Diamond Medallion (previously Platinum Medallion)
- 3 Million Milers earn Diamond Medallion (previously Gold Medallion)
- 2 Million Milers earn Platinum Medallion (previously Gold Medallion)
- 1 Million Milers earn Gold Medallion (previously Silver Medallion)
That’s very generous. I know someone who will hit 3MM in January — and he’s elated.
But that’s what I don’t get. If Delta is requiring crazy high MQD requirements for Diamond Medallion, why are they basically giving it away? Or making it so much easier to earn with the MQD Headstarts?
Added Choice Benefits
There will be some added Choice Benefits in 2025.
- An MQD Accelerator for the next Medallion Qualification Year
- $2,000 for Diamond Medallion Members
- $1,000 for Platinum Medallion Members
- Delta Sky Club Individual Membership for Diamond Medallion Members, in exchange for two Choice Benefit selections
- Increased bonus miles:
- 35,000 for Diamond Medallion Members
- 30,000 for Platinum Medallion Members
- Increased Delta travel voucher
- $350 for Diamond Medallion Members
- $300 for Platinum Medallion Members
- A new Wheels Up statement flight credit
Delta expects Wheels Up not to be Belly Up, huh?
These additions are undoubtedly nice. The $1,000 or $2,000 MQD Accelerator will save me even more money on earning MQD without stepping on a plane 🙂 .
What Delta Didn’t Change But I Hoped They Would
The MQD Boost — spending money on Delta Reserve and Platinum Amexes to earn MQD — rates are still dismal.
Reserve (business and personal) cardholders earn $1 MQD for each $10 of eligible spending. Platinum (business and personal) cardholders must spend $20 to reach that paltry $1 MQD.
I thought Delta would do better there. But SkyMiles cards traditionally are relatively worthless for earning points, so I’m okay spending money on other cards — and using those for travel on Delta or elsewhere. (Maybe I’ll actually fly to earn some of my MQD — what a concept!)
Final Approach
Delta announced updates to its SkyMiles 2025 program. Frankly, the Delta Amex MQD Headstart is a game-changer. You can score Silver Medallion status by holding a Reserve and Platinum card. The MQM to MQD conversion ratio is slightly less obnoxious — but could come in handy when paired up with the MQD Headstart. Some of us will be close to Platinum in February!
I also really like the lifetime status bonuses for Million Milers. You currently need 6MM to be a lifetime Diamond; that’s slashed to just 3MM in February.
The Sky Club visit rations are still lame. But they’re certainly an improvement over the “per visit” mandate. That will likely entice me to keep my Reserve card for at least 2025 while I kick the tires.
I think Delta made decent compromises for people who value status. Obviously, they couldn’t walk back everything.
What do you think?
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@Chris- Can we earn diamond in 2024 and still apply the rollover MQMs for future diamond or do we have to earn diamond in 2023 to be able to use MQM rollovers to extend? Thanks
@Sam – It seems you will need to earn Diamond NOW (for 2024) to then use the rollover MQMs (over 100,000) to extend. At least the way I am reading it.
For example in my case I will only be Platinum for 2024 so unless I would do more (not gonna) I would only be able to extend my Platinum status (not gonna do that either).
I think you are correct @René.
Isnt the travel voucher 500 already for diamond?
@jimmyjohn – No. For 2024 you can pick a $500 statement credit as a Diamond Choice benefit or a $500 Delta Vacations credit but the Delta travel credit choice is only $250. See this link!
The keep your status for 100,000 MQMs per year of current status is a joke. There are people with 1M+ in MQMs from rollover and Amex status boosts. So they can keep DM for 10(!!) years without any flying or Amex spend. I wonder if they will get CBs every year. They now have the luxury of status matching to AA/UA and gaining top-tier status there. DL’s objective was to reduce PM/DM but this will do the opposite.
Also for just $500 you can get automatic Silver (and 2 companion certs) by holding both DL Amex Platinum personal/business cards. And for just $1,600 you get automatic Gold plus 4 companion certs.
DL has just swung the pendulum the opposite way with these changes.
I agree – I just posted my thoughts about this on the previous story before I read this one. Also part of the fun of flying was to earn status and they have taken away that fun for the next 4 years for me!
My question as well. If you do the 100K/year Current extension – – or – – life time achievement, will you get the Choice Benefits? Currently, I have a friend who has lifetime Platinum and he gets the Platinum Choice Benefit. Wonder if this will change.
@Al Dickinson – Delta has not said yet. If yes then this change is even bigger!
if they don’t travel, what’s the big deal?
Delta got caught with a hooker in a hotel promises they didn’t mean it and wants to come home and sleep in the same bed even after you saw their texts to their friends saying they will do it again once things settle done. Good luck cult members
Better a hotel where they can earn points than a back alley, tho, right?
So Amex Plantium AU is still 10 visits? It doesn’t tip the needle for me enough to keep buying delta now that I have status matches and chasing it with other airlines, but if this is the case I will probably cancel my DW as an AU on my reserve once the fee comes up. I only really see the benefit in the Bogo now for her unless I’m seeing this incorrectly.
Isn’t it 10 days?
yes i meant days sorry if its 10 days then I’m going to drop my DW as an AU for delta card I’ve gone gun ho free agent and I’ve been saving some money on the premium product not caring about the status as much anymore.
Of course those of us who recently retired with decades of loyalty are not happy. We will change to Reserve from platinum or more likely another carriers platinum card. Since the SkyPeso Dollar ratio is the worst in the industry (even the reserve card) and the limitation of visits to the SkyClub for elites is unfathomable, status matches have been applied for. We literally have a full deck of Diamond, Platinum and SkyClub membership cards and this is what we get for that loyalty. No more chasing status for us, it’s whatever carrier gives us the best deal from now on. AX is begging us to stay as well, but they can’t do anything, this is on Delta and their decision to let finance guys make the decisions on customer experience. Delta said s they have the premium product to offer now, well you need to treat the folks that buy that products as premium not just a credit card number.
@Freidrich – Are you not, after decades of loyalty, a million miler? If so the changes should make you jump for joy!
My hubby is, I am not yet but close, as I said we are retired and don’t travel every week as we did, plus COVID ended our travel in the last two years of our careers. Our Amex spend is close to $100k per year right now, we can buy DO/FC tickets for much less than that spending level, but it’s looking like buhbye, since other carriers are 1:1 spend ratio and not limiting club visits.
@Friedrich – I would suggest if hubby is close it is worth the push to make MM. Skyteam elite plus is a HUGE perk when flying partners.
He is a 2MM and DM for over 20 years. I’m the one who is close to MM but we will do the CBA on that spending. For context my hubby was an exec with a huge ATL based company with many preferred partnership’s with DL to this day, he was on a first name basis with all staff at our airport and ATL. I was a 25 year travel sales professional based on the PacNW, top US producer for decades for one of the largest travel/membership companies, so this isn’t coming from folks without extensive travel experience. This isn’t a decision we are taking lightly, but it is very disappointing . Thank you for your site one of the best.
I am a MM. Will I go up to lifetime Gold from Silver? Or is that for new people?
AFAIK, it’s for everyone who’s accumulated at least 1MM.
oh well i’ll take that for nothing. 🙂
Chris,
I just called the medallion line and they(ATL) said, “No”! No Grandfathered XXMILLION Milers. Sad…….Hoping they’re wrong.
This certainly wouldn’t be the first time we’ve heard conflicting information from Delta. I’ll add it to my list.
Spirit and Frontier will have the best fares, just have your boxing gloves on for the fighting that takes place on their planes.
The million miler level changes seems unnecessary and odd to me. Are we fully eliminating silver status now? Or, is it that they realized silver is so worthless that someone who has flown 1,000,000 miles would not stick around just for that? If someone had asked my opinion, I would’ve made the following recommendation:
1MM: Silver (same)
2MM: Gold (same)
3MM: Platinum
4MM: Diamond
5MM+: Delta 360
I say this as a current 2MM who just descended from Diamond for the first time in 2023, and who has over 650,000 roll over MQMs. They could have incentivized me to spend more with them over the next six years (if I burned my rollover on status extensions) to reach that 3MM mark, but instead they’re just giving me Platinum status anyway. And, I’ll be honest, the only reason I’m not diamond again this year is that I’ve been flying a lot more with a Alaska, American, and United in 2022 & 2023. To me, it feels like they missed a big opportunity to encourage me to bring my business back.
I think that you answered your own question…someone who has flown a million miles doesn’t value Silver status. I’m a MM and have never had Silver status and don’t value it as a “floor” on my status with Delta. Pushing me up to Gold feels like some value if there’s a year when I can’t travel for some reason. Perhaps the biggest reason why Gold is meaningfully better is that it is in the “Sky Priority” boarding group while Silver is in the “Main Cabin 1” which means if you’re sitting in front of the wing it’s unlikely you’ll be able to stow your bag anywhere near you.
Also, on International itineraries, you’re allowed to use the SkyTeam clubs.
Unless you’re booked on a Delta-marketed itinerary credited to your SkyMiles account.
Ouch! What about DL into ICN then KE to BKK? Should be able to use lounge, however, you’re saying that in the return, I’d have NO access? It can’t be.
One thing that seems to have changed with the roll-back announcement is that under the initial announcement you could spend $75k in 2025 and have uncapped SkyClub visits for 2025 AND 2026. Now it looks like you are only getting uncapped access for spending $75k for THAT year. I could almost wrap my head around having to spend $75k every two years for uncapped access, but annually isn’t compelling. Also, are there any caps to Centurion lounge access for those with Delta Reserve cards or are those staying uncapped? That seems to be unchanged which is a perk for those based at airports with Centurion Lounges.
I travel to PHL every week and the PHL Centurion lounge is very nice. The food offerings are a step up over SC. It’s a 10 minute walk from the DL gates and my Reserve card gets me in with no spending minimum. The Centurion rules are very grey re admittance upon arrival flights but so far they have always let me in. It is a nice alternative to SC.
I see too many Diamonds going forward, and therefore expect we may see diminished “Diamond” value as time goes forward. -When everyone is a DIAMOND, no one is a DIAMOND. And I wonder will the 360 benefit become watered down as well now that it will not be invite only?? -This spoken by a current 360 member with 5.6 million miles, as this marks my 39th year flying DL (started with NWA).
I have 3 MM flight miles flown with Delta (and NWA back in the day) and was quite frankly stunned with the announcement that I am now a Lifetime Diamond. While I wasn’t sure I could make 4 MM to obtain Platinum, I was at least giving it a try (3.34 MM as of today). At 4 MM I would have automatic upgrades to C+ when booking, if available, during my retirement travel years. That was the nice perk for me.
If someone is Silver for 2024 and has 100K rollover MQMs, then they have the option to extend their Silver for another year, right? Why wouldn’t they convert the 100K MQMs into 10K MQDs to qualify for Gold?
@Bob – I am sure folks will do that math and IMO only Platinum and Diamonds will do the extend for 100k
Rene’
You have me confused. As a “Platinum with 90k+ rollover MQM’s, are you saying that DELTA will grant me a one year reprieve and take away 75K and give me Platinum status(2025) without doing anything?
You need at least 100k+ MQM next year for your status to be extended an additional Medallion year.
OMG! I need to book a few mileage runs! Thanks to both of you, I appreciate your efforts for the rest of us.
Some things to like in here, others still feel a bit excessive, but I appreciate the efforts and it’s an improvement.
Question (and I think I already know the answer) — if you’re among the 1M club, to earn into the higher status do you start from zero? Put another way, as a 1M miler now, when it goes up to Gold Medallion next year, do I need to $5K MQD to get to Platinum (recognizing my current Gold status, and essentially giving me $10K MQM “credit”) or the full $15K MQD (as if starting from zero)? I assume the latter but would be nice…
@Paul – Gifted status like MM status is just that – a gift. To earn higher you start are zero.
Rene: I am currently a 2MM. Will I receive the LT Platinum now? Or will I have to reach 3MM. Also, I am DM for 2024 with 500k MQM to use to extend DM for 5 additional years. Just seems like they are making it easier to attain/retain DM which I thought was their reason for the new rules??? Your site is the best out there so keep up the great work. Aloha
@Sandman – Lifetime. You will rollover 375k and can get 3 years more as DM. I would try to earn 25k more this year for 4 years of extensions. Mahalo
With MQMs going away, how are they going to be calculating miles that count toward Million Miler status moving forward? I am assuming base miles. Will there be a 500 mile minimum? Any multipliers based on fare class purchased? Partner flights calculation?
They are definitely incentivizing reaching the next tier of million miler if you are 1M, 2M or 3M right now. It seems like the Million Miler status is probably the best way to game status long term.
@Neil – Base miles only. I think 500 min yes but who know once 100% live. Partner flights based on distance and fare class but lower (see this post).
Do you think this will bring back the mileage run element where trying to book as many miles traveled for the fewest cents per mile with million miler milestones as the goal or is a million miles just too large a number to try and hit that way?
@Neil – See tomorrow’s post.
Just for grins, I plugged in LAX-LHR-CPT-JNB-ATL-LAX (a real itinerary on Delta, BTW). That comes to 23,328 miles. One would need to take 43 of those to accrue a million miles. Now, I know there are plenty of other trips people take. But that’s putting into perspective how difficult it’ll be to hit a million unless you organically travel a lot.
It was great back in the day (like, now) when we could/can earn MQM bonuses on credit card spending and cabin bonuses.
That said, we’re still going to hunt both MQM and MQD runs because everyone’s needs are different.
As a 4MM I am delighted, for now
I would be also
Hi Chris,
On the Delta website they stated $2,500 per card type. Do you know if the Delta Reserva Business is a different card type from the Delta Reserve personal?
@Marcia – That has been the case in the past yes and we are assuming it will continue (per their wording).
I’m a 2MM and 2024 would have marked the first time I drop from DM to PM in years. I have 380K MQM. Going the 100K (or some multiple of that) rollover MQM route will only get me PM for a year (or more), which is useless as I will already be lifetime PM as a 2MM. But unless I’m missing something I now have another option. In January when it becomes available, I plan to convert enough MQM to MQD to attain DM immediately. So I will have DM for almost 2 years without doing anything else. Do you see any flaws in my thinking?
I’d rather be DM for two years.
Yes. In addition to better perks when flying Delta, I will have my status already covered thru 2025, and can status match and in 2024 kick the tires of other carriers.
Hmmmm. Quick question – I am a 3mm, have 500k + of MQM and have already qualified for Diamond in 2024. I also have the Delta Reserve card and Platinum Business AMX. (IE: I listen to you….). I want to figure out the best pathway to having my wife continue to be able to go into the lounge with me for 2024 and then going forward. Any advice? (PS – I have not used my 2024 Diamond Medallion Choices yet). I also status matched to UA and have 1-K through 2024.
Thank you
How is she getting into the lounge with you now?
I am a MM. Will I go up to lifetime Gold from Silver? Or is that for new people?
@Jane – All of us!
Two assumptions:
1. Choice Benefits must be earned through hitting the MQD thresholds. So having lifetime status or status for multiple years through MQM rollovers, you will still need to qualify for status to get Choice benefits.
2. It looks like the MQD “Headstart” is a one-time 2024 only concession. Yes they added the “headstart” to the Choice Benefits, but you will not receive the credit card MQD headstart (from the way I am reading everything).
Can you confirm?
Added to my list of questions to ask.
I’m a PM that will finish the year with about 190K MQMs. I’m also a 1MM. I will be a PM for 2024 with the AMEX MQD bypass, so I will enter 2024 with 115K MQMs. I currently have a Reserve card that renews next month, and just got non-Delta AMEX Platinum business and personal cards with 150K and 120K welcome offers, respectively.
For me, I will still cancel the Reserve card because 20 days of Sky Club visits should be enough. I actually like the MSP Escape lounge, so I should be fine even if I come close to using up the Sky Club visits because I go through MSP often and can switch a few lounge visits to the Escape lounge. Continuing to be a PM for 2025 for 100K MQMs sound like a better deal than 50K SkyMiles. I get a lot of value out of RUCs and I think they are worth more than $125 each, not to mention the other PM benefits.
I’ll have two years to see how everything plays out, but I doubt that I will be much of a free agent next year. I do think that one thing that would encourage me to keep the Reserve card would be some type MQD rollover. However, if I elect to spend 100K MQMs on 2025 PM status, what will 2024 spending on a Reserve card get me in?
I’m also happy to have lifetime GM status! I’m about 900K from being a 2MM, so it probably does make sense to go for that.
I’ve also had some really wonderful flights on Delta this month. I had an SJC-to-MSP flight and my first-class seat had a personally addressed thank you note with a Ghirardelli chocolate when I got to my seat. The flight ended up being delayed because of a malfunctioning bullhorn, and the flight crew wrote apology notes for all the first class passengers during the flight. I was so happy the service, I give my flight attendant one of my recognition certificates.
The massive unknown is if you convert the 100k MQM into another year(s) of DM/PM status (“extension”) will you also receive CBs? What good really is DM without the CBs??
Would it be 75K for Platinum? Current at 90k+ rollover.
How many MQM total do you have right now?
164.6k and a Platinum. If they subtract 75k for Platinum next year, I’ll have approximately 90k. If they just allow the 164.6k rollover, that’ll be GREAT!
@Bridge – If you have Amex waver or have the MQD spend for Platinum they will deduct 75k before rollover.
Do we have any idea if holding both Reserve for Biz and (regular) Reserve will get you 15 visits PER card? And then if so, do we think the $75K minimum for unlimited can be hit by collective spend between the two in the same way it used to?
I believe the 15 days is per card. I’ll ask about the spending.
There probably was an amount of savings and additional revenue Delta associated with the original charges. The updates must reduce that number. I assume Delta won’t just wave that money by bye. It will probably compensate by making customers pay somewhere else now or in the near future.
I love that 2mm is now Platinum. Diamond would be nice but not worth making a concerted effort for me to get 300K miles. It is surprising Delta was so generous with what is effectively lifetime status although it could be revoked or amended. It would be interesting to know Delta’s calculation on the cost of lifetime status. Lifetime is finite and people may not travel much in their later years.
I’m doing a MQD run tomorrow to CPT and back that will get me to DM this year. Planned the trip a few months ago, so not in response to these changes, but now it seems incredibly well timed. I expect to end up with about 422,000 MQMs at year-end, so just short of 3 years worth of rollover after deducting 125,000 for DM. Seems like a good idea to now take a domestic MR to pocket those last 3,000 MQMs for 3 years of DM (rather than 2), right? If the extended DM status includes CBs it is a no-brainer, but I guess we don’t know that yet.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I’m a new reader and appreciate your thoroughness.
I am going to end 2023 with 625,000 MQM, and Diamond Status for 2024.
A few questions I have:
1. Will all 625,000 MQM be available to convert? Or 500,000 MQM (deducting 125,000 MQM for Diamond Status)?
2. If I choose to extend Diamond for 5 more years, will I receive 1 Platinum Choice Benefit and 3 Diamond Choice benefits?
Thank you!
@Sara – If you have spent $20,000 MQD this year you will have 125,000 MQMs deducted before rollover happens. The extension should allow choice benefits (but we do not 100% know yet).
For me, the Sky Club restrictions are still a bridge too far. I would have hit “10 days” by early July. I think it’s a over-reaction to a very fixable problem. Since they won’t fix it (restrict the Amex Plats)…I will fix it for myself. I’m moving to the United Infinite card come renewal time next fall.
Chris, an additional thought on your comparison between the Delta Reserve Card and AA Executive Card relates to the earning-rate refresh on the AA Executive Card. The AA card earns 10X on AA’s hotel and rental car portal. (Of course, one can also look at 10X on Capital One’s, Chase’s, and Citi’s respective travel portals.) Delta is absolutely non-competitive. It needs to create incentives for its customers to move dollars to each of its revenue channels. If it made such a refresh on the Reserve cards, they’d have me in a heartbeat.
How dare you introduce logic and common sense at a time like this! 🙂
Question on earning status.
If I am a 1MM with Gold .. to earn Platinum, do I:
Only have to earn $5000 ?
OR, go back to $0 .. and make it to $15000.
If you’re a 1MM with Gold status as a result of being a 1MM, you’ll still have $0 MQD. You need to spend $15,000 to reach Platinum.